Posted: Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:54 am Post subject: Latex Glue
This is a long video, I was watching it looking for tips on improving my Perch fishing fly patterns.
Then Daniel throws in the latex glue to stick the eyes on, it looks like Copydex.
I was using epoxy resin and then switched too U.V gel to secure eyes on flies.
Does anyone use latex glues?
Plus I am always looking for the perfect ( on the day) bait fish pattern for Perch fishing( maybe trout as well) does anyone have any recommendations.
Cheers
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Either epoxy or a polyurethane glue like "Gorilla" or Fletchtite (original !) are the best things to use for the eyes, as almost any form of super-glue will break down in water as will Copydex types.
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The glue I was looking for is called Tear Mender, spotted it on a U.S video, it's the same stuff the Swidish tiers use and is available via eBay.
I think I may need to revisit some of my Perch fry flies.
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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:28 am Post subject:
I use various forms of eyes on all my home tied pike flies. The glue I use currently, which has given me good service, is "Serious Glue by Evo Stik" It allows repositioning for up to 3 minutes and is fully hardened in 2 hours - a thick layer will form a flexible transparent bond.
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Cheers Tony, the Tear Mend is left to cure over night.
Where did you get the Serious Glue from ? Or is it as they say on the telly "available at all good hard ware shops"
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:26 am Post subject:
As you say Ff, "available at all good hard ware shops" Also on "the Bay"
Not cheap, (around £4+ for a tube) - but you only need a small blob per side and its very effective - If Pike with their 700 teeth cannot shift the eyes on my flies - Perch will have no chance
What helps me is that I can reposition my fly/lever vice to enable it to lie level as I attach each eye in turn - or just lie them on your bench to position your eyes.
Just need a small blob of serious glue on the fly and then push the eye into the glue.
If you need a heavier head, let the eyes set, then cover what is required with a second denser coat, spreading it with a cocktail stick or similar - Serious glue dries transparent, so you can use it over your eyes to protect them, and at the same time, make your fly sink head first.
HTH ...... Tony
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Thanks Tony, just bought some from B&Q.
I am off to the states in May so will buy some Tear Mend over there were it is considerably cheaper. I also have a Bass Pro Shop visit planned so the credit card will be take a hammering _________________ Floating Lines, buzzers, nymphs, stick floats, maggots and throwing lures at bitey things.
I bought a tube of Copydex for other jobs around the house and decided to give it a try attaching the eyes to the flies.
Tearmender has the advantage of soaking into and around the fibers of craft fur and buck tail (according to the experts) and therefore fixing the eyes to a better base??????
Well the Copydex also seems to do that and means the eyes can be re positioned before it sets, the down side is that it takes a good five to ten minutes to set depending on room temp.
Once it has dried clear I have then been giving it another coat to double secure everything.
The thing I like the most about it is the finished fly has a soft head as the Copydex dries with a flexible finish.
The flies I am tying are for Perch and trout on a size 6 B175, I am not sure how the head and eyes would withstand Pikes teeth, but the YouTube tiers ARE tying for Pike and recommending Tearmender which looks like a USA version of Copydex.
If you have a tube of Copydex try it and let me know what you think.
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Go to 18.24 on the vid, he uses UV resin to mold/shape the head not to secure the eyes.
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