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micklen 100 Post Club User is Offline

Joined: 11 Apr 2006 Posts: 227 Location: Northampton England
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 5:46 pm Post subject: HELP PLEASE!!!!!! |
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I know casting is a very difficult thing to advise about without being there, but.......
The biggest problem I am having is when I am trying for distance, as Pitsford is so low, I am getting the line or fly clipping the rod on the backcast
I am trying different timings and angles etc but that is my main problem with losing power and getting a loop a close second
I am also getting 'wind' knots
I am normally fine with 10 yards or so in the air, but much more...........
I don't know whether the two problems are allied to each other or not
I will be going for a lesson but probably not for a while and in the meantime if anyone can explain what it MAY be I can try and work the problem out
Wind is almost always in face from 10 o clock to 2 o clock
Thanks in advance
Mick _________________ Feel the force
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fredaevans 2,500 Post Club User is Offline
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Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:53 am Post subject: |
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Mick, very similar problem with casting 2-handers (but usually on the forward cast) is your rod may be in too vertical a position. To use the old line "form follows function." On your back cast try tipping your rod tip over about 10-15 degrees UNTIL the rod passes your ear. OK (normally) to bring it up into a more straight up/down position at that point.
Point of this is the line/leader/fly is going to follow your rod tip (either going backward or forward). With 2-hander rods (bye the bye, you can lay out a hell of a lot of line 'over head casting' with a 13' rod, and I do mean A LOT!) the typical back cast/set up for the D-loop solves this problem, but the forward cast sets you up for 'disaster' if you don't do the above.
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Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:11 am Post subject: |
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Tailing loop. |
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rad 750 Post Club User is Offline
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The best bit of advice i was ever offered was relax and slow it down. Seemed to work for me. _________________ www.orchardit.co.uk |
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micklen 100 Post Club User is Offline

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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 7:59 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks all
I am looking at all these
It has to be a timing or such thing I would have thought
Been watching the Mel Krieger dvd so working on that short sharp movement
However India are visiting Northants CC at the moment so I thought I would go and have a look now I have the means to get there
So fishing will have to take a back seat
Mick _________________ Feel the force
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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:42 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mick
Just a thought - At Eyebrook on Sat 27th of August the British Fly Casting Club are having a meet.
All are welcome to get advise and tuition (very cheaply ) on any aspect of their casting.
You won't find a friendlier or more helpfull bunch - Well worth the effort to go.
As its not that far from you - I thought I'd offer a "heads up"
http://www.thebfcc.co.uk/events
Editted to add link
HTH ...... Tony _________________ Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.
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ChrisNicholls 4,000 Post Club User is Offline

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Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 9:53 am Post subject: |
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The best advice I ever got was from Carl (Berlin) he simply said ''less is more''
As soon as I started to follow his sage advice and stop trying to force it out my distances and loop shape etc improved dramatically. _________________ "The measure of a good fisherman is not what he catches but how he enjoys the moment" - Richard Walker |
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rad 750 Post Club User is Offline
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Practice makes perfect. Im trying to teach my son to cast at the mo. To start with he was getting a bit frustrated with it but i said to him hepp practicing and it wall all come together,
Came home the other day and there he was in the back garden chucking line out like a old professional. Think i may have to start payin for two tickets now when i go fishing. _________________ www.orchardit.co.uk |
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micklen 100 Post Club User is Offline

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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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lakefisher wrote: |
Hi Mick
Just a thought - At Eyebrook on Sat 27th of August the British Fly Casting Club are having a meet.
All are welcome to get advise and tuition (very cheaply ) on any aspect of their casting.
You won't find a friendlier or more helpfull bunch - Well worth the effort to go.
As its not that far from you - I thought I'd offer a "heads up"
http://www.thebfcc.co.uk/events
Editted to add link
HTH ...... Tony |
Yeah I love it over Eyebrook, but there is no easy way to get over there
The scooter would never make it there and back
I haven't had a real chance to try out this Mel Krieger style, but I am hoping this will help me a bit
Thanks for everything all of you
Mick _________________ Feel the force
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Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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rad wrote: |
The best bit of advice i was ever offered was relax and slow it down. Seemed to work for me. |
True in so many ways.
ChrisNicholls wrote: |
''less is more'' |
Please confine these sort of admissions to "Dear Diedre" c/o "The Sun"
Jokiing aside, they are both right. Since I stopped worrying too much about distance, it seems to have improved with less effort and movement, and it's more enjoyable. One other thing, you are far more likely to successfully hook and retain a fish at shorter range, which to be honest, is where most of the fish tend to be in my humble experience!
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