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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:39 am    Post subject: Making backed wings Reply with quote

I have recently got hold of some tying gear and there is an embroidery frame holding nylon stocking material on which are pasted Pheasant 'chuch window' feathers. This is obviously a technique to make folded backed wings but what do you use to do the sticking? The kit included acetone? Is this the key?

Can anyone help?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea, Arkle (John) has vast tying knowledge and may be able to help. I assume you need a waterproof flexible glue of some sort and one with without a solvent that is not going to damage the nylon. Only had a go once and used SH HAN as the 'glue' to stick the feather to the stocking. Never used the flies so not sure.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Fisher3, The technique you mention has been doing the rounds since the 1980's, acetone by the way has nothing really to do with it as it's use is for thinning varnish.

I think the 1st time I saw it done, was by Taff Price back then & he used Vycoat, which was a vinyl type glue that's no longer available. Plasticote is similar, but not thinned with acetone, as are many of the other things like softex, shoe/leather adhesives etc.

I would avoid using standard u.v. resin's though & only try one that is fully flexible such as the new thick flexible one from the diamondhard range.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the information. I was aware that Acetone thinned varnish, but I just wondered if it was used for this as well.

The wings I have are actually pretty good (they probably date from the 1980's) and you can cut to the correct shape etc with scissors. Not used any yet but was thinking about trying a Caddis pattern. I was just wondering how I would make more, I can get old nylon tights and have plenty of feathers of the correct type, just need to sort the adhesive out.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daves flexament should work
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you can't get any "Dave's Flexament" there's always "Floo Glu" / "Feather weld" / Loctite's Leather cement + some of the others I mentioned.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bug-Bond would work great for this being that it was designed flexible from the start.
There is a great You Tube clip showing how flexible Bug-Bond is.
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