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PostPosted: Wed May 13, 2015 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll bring my stuff to Elinor so you guys can give it a critique
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul
I bought a torch and resin from eBay, the torch seems fine I think it is maybe the cheap thick resin that is the issue.
So far I have just been playing with it to see if it is worth a further investment in better thinner resin.
It won't go to waste because I am also an avid perch and Pike lure fisherman and I can use it up attaching eyes to Jig head etc.
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hi Paul
I bought a torch and resin from eBay, the torch seems fine I think it is maybe the cheap thick resin that is the issue.
So far I have just been playing with it to see if it is worth a further investment in better thinner resin.
It won't go to waste because I am also an avid perch and Pike lure fisherman and I can use it up attaching eyes to Jig head etc.
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Ah ok I have read that the cheap generic stuff (like for nails etc) is hit and miss. The thickness of the gel shouldn't have any effect on the setting so long as the curing wavelength matches the output of the torch (which I would guess would be the main cause of poor setting). If you know any one with any of the branded ones give it a go and I don't think you'll be anywhere near as disappointed - it's been a bit of a revelation to me tbh.
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PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have sold a few bits and bobs on EBay so have ordered some expensive Bug Bond, I will use up ( if I live long enough Very Happy ) the other stuff on my lure jig heads and jig flies.
The buzzers do look good finished with UV resin I wonder what the trout at Farmoor will make of them.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget to buy an extra bottle of varnish to counter the tackiness of this dental resin by-product
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Don't forget to buy an extra bottle of varnish to counter the tackiness of this dental resin by-product


Yep good advice there.

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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats worrying, I though the expensive stuff dried hard?
If not I will send it back for a refund and stick with varnish and super glue.
Watch this space.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please read the early posts in this section & there are many dozens of product reviews online.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Arkle.
Well the Bug Bond arrived and it set solid with a good burst of torch light.
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not that it doesn't set solid, but it remains "tacky", see the video, kindly supplied by Chris, a.k.a. "Greyhackle"

Hence the suggestion that you'll need extra varnish, which almost defeats the purpose, as you're doing in two stages, what could & should be done in one, with less product, time & virtually no smell.

Check out the experience of one major U.S. dealer at the bottom of the page http://www.deercreek.co.uk/DIAMOND-UV-RESINS.html
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm see what you mean
I feel more than a bit ripped off by the UV resin experience.
Strangely the tacky nature of resin does not get a mention in the fly tying demonstration videos, I wonder why Rolling Eyes
I may put it all up for sale on Ebay and stay with super glue and varnish.
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PostPosted: Thu May 28, 2015 8:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll see that the price of Diamondhard is noticeably cheaper than the one you have & much quicker to use, just the once, other than multiple sessions of faffing about with super glue, then maybe several coats of varnish.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So after tying some U.V resin buzzer patterns and using them, my conclusions are.

They last longer after being crunched by several trout (around 6 on the same fly last night and still in good order)
I like the way you can build profile hit it with the torch maybe add a bit of colour, a tad more resin and then torch again.

But I do not like.
That no matter how long the UV torch is on it the surface remains tacky.

It seems to be like most of these things, it is not the magic answer.
If someone has a tip to get the stuff to set by using UV light and does it not cost a lot I would be keen to know, otherwise I will just varnish them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, reference the "tacky" finish, it depends on which make of resin you're using & the type of torch you use with it. The Lazer torch & Diamondhard will not give you these problems, as has been previously stated here & everywhere else they are mentioned. As it dries "diamondhard" it also does not have any noticeable smell, at least to us humans.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think my plan is to use up the bottle of Bug Bond that I have, ( which will take a while) and then go back to varnish and super glue.
But thanks for the advice Arkle.
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