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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 7:05 am    Post subject: Hardy Neocane rod Reply with quote

Well last night I bought a Hardy Neocane Teal rod on Ebay and just found out from reading reviews that it is about the worst rod Hardys have ever made.
Plus I have just noticed it is collection only (60 miles away)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Picked up the rod last night and it is in excellent condition, in fact looking at the reel seat if its been used once that is about it.
One question I do have is when putting it together one of the sections was a very tight fit and I didnt want to push it all the way in to find it wouldnt come apart again.
What would you recommend that I apply to it to free up the movement a bit.
It a 10 foot 7# rod and Ive been told its a sea trout rod.
Would this be ok to use for normal trout on a reservoir?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cripes - if I am correct the rod was from the 60's two piece split cane with brass ferrules. If this is correct I would look after it for a few years and unless you are a collector re offer it to the market for a profit. Can you post a picture?

Edit - probably 3 piece.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drybuzzer wrote:
Picked up the rod last night and it is in excellent condition, in fact looking at the reel seat if its been used once that is about it.
One question I do have is when putting it together one of the sections was a very tight fit and I didnt want to push it all the way in to find it wouldnt come apart again.
What would you recommend that I apply to it to free up the movement a bit.
It a 10 foot 7# rod and Ive been told its a sea trout rod.
Would this be ok to use for normal trout on a reservoir?


You could try applying some Vaseline but I would be tempted to find a local rod builder to help rectifying the tight fit.

Don't see why you shouldn't use the rod unless you are holding as part of a collection.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Cripes - if I am correct the rod was from the 60's two piece split cane with brass ferrules. If this is correct I would look after it for a few years and unless you are a collector re offer it to the market for a profit. Can you post a picture?

Edit - probably 3 piece.


Its 3 piece and I paid £40 for it and honestly I mean it is as new. The hardy bag has faded but thats all.
Hope it does prove to be a good deal but I would like to give it a go on the water.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I copied this from the tinternet:

Two things to avoid, sandpaper and WD40. The WD can adversely affect certain adhesives. Ideally send it back from whence it came but failing that head for B & Q paint counter and get some "synthetic" wire wool, not actually wire just man made pads.

Give the female inside a good clean out with a cotton bud and meths. With the synthetic wire wool give the male joint a gentle rub down, turning the blank as you go. Make the rubbing light and around the blank, not up and down (butt to tip) or you could create flat spots. Make it a gentle rub, clean off with meths and try it. If no joy same again. You can also lubricate the joint with 3 and 1 spray containing PTFE, not the basic 3 in 1 (Halfords or car shop). Also ideal for lubricating carbon and glass joints.

Clean off both male and female with meths after each rub down. You should really only be looking to rub off any surface residue, not actually the metal itself.

I was brought up on rods with brass ferrules. The rubbing in the hair or side of the nose was always the way to go.

If stuck together when out fishing a gentle heat of the female with a ciggie lighter normally does the trick. Only heating the length where the male goes in, not close to adhesive holding the female. Traditionally the male and female sections had slightly differing make ups with either additional or less bronze in one than the other. That allowed the female to expand faster than the male.

Remember you can always rub a wee bit more off, you cant add it back on.



As for using the rod - why not but you will feel like you have had 3 rounds with Mike Tyson after a day on the bank Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tenet wrote:
I copied this from the tinternet:

Two things to avoid, sandpaper and WD40. The WD can adversely affect certain adhesives. Ideally send it back from whence it came but failing that head for B & Q paint counter and get some "synthetic" wire wool, not actually wire just man made pads.

Give the female inside a good clean out with a cotton bud and meths. With the synthetic wire wool give the male joint a gentle rub down, turning the blank as you go. Make the rubbing light and around the blank, not up and down (butt to tip) or you could create flat spots. Make it a gentle rub, clean off with meths and try it. If no joy same again. You can also lubricate the joint with 3 and 1 spray containing PTFE, not the basic 3 in 1 (Halfords or car shop). Also ideal for lubricating carbon and glass joints.

Clean off both male and female with meths after each rub down. You should really only be looking to rub off any surface residue, not actually the metal itself.

I was brought up on rods with brass ferrules. The rubbing in the hair or side of the nose was always the way to go.

If stuck together when out fishing a gentle heat of the female with a ciggie lighter normally does the trick. Only heating the length where the male goes in, not close to adhesive holding the female. Traditionally the male and female sections had slightly differing make ups with either additional or less bronze in one than the other. That allowed the female to expand faster than the male.

Remember you can always rub a wee bit more off, you cant add it back on.



As for using the rod - why not but you will feel like you have had 3 rounds with Mike Tyson after a day on the bank Very Happy Very Happy


Excellent explanation, thank you very much. I dont intend to do a full days fishing with it as I can tell the weight will start to get to me.
I think of myself as quite strong but I will still want to be able to pick up a pint at the end of a long day lol
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