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PostPosted: Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Lighthouse you do explain things rather well, you should write a book.
Now teach me to front haul cos I just cant do it without my line just collapsing into a heap


So . . . you can put a haul into your back cast but it all goes to hell in a hand cart when you try and do it on the forward cast too?

It's a bit like the ability to pat your head and rub your belly at the same time . . . combining a range of movements which 'seem' to be contradictory.

It's a skill that can't be adequately 'described' on a forum but there are any number of 'drills' and practice routines that can be employed to develop the timing . . . hence why there is some value in instructors. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can double haul back and front but I can not cast 30 yards ( whats that in meters) but I guess on most fishing occasions I never need much more than 20 yards.
I am going to book some top up casting lessons next year with Andy Hathaway and see what can be improved.
Those Farmoor trout are never that far out from the bank unless it is booby time and thirty plus definitely gives you an advantage.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 12, 2017 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I can double haul back and front but I can not cast 30 yards ( whats that in meters) . . .


About 27m.

Very, very few people can cast 30yards, have the backing knot on their fly line rattling up through the rings. My best, measured on grass with conventional tackle (9ft, 5wt) was 112ft (37.3 yards) but in a fishing situation, with conventional tackle, I doubt I've ever cast 30yds. From a boat, with specialised rods / shooting heads, 40/5 yards plus is achievable.

There is a danger in becoming 'distance obsessed' and many people's claims need to be taken with a very large pinch of salt. The true benefit of being able to cast 'distance' well is that it means that your technique at shorter 'fishing distance' will be 'nailed on' and consistently good. Much like HiFi amps are sold at 40 watts per channel, not so we can listen to music with bleeding ears, but because of their performance at lower output.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,

Be prepared in your practice for it to go awry at least one cast in three. It's all about getting the right amount of line outside the tip ring with the minimum number of false casts. Too much and it simply overloads the whole thing and the line falls onto the water in a heap. Too little and you won't get the distance you are looking for.

I find that when I get it right I can punch out 35 yards plus quite consistently, and then I get one wrong......... As has been said it's more about timing then brute force.

Good job we don't need to do much casting when we're backdrifting. Just flop it out ten yards and let the boat's drift do the rest.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good job we don't need to do much casting when we're backdrifting. Just flop it out ten yards and let the boat's drift do the rest.


Love it! The old lead line 'duck and dump'. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I well remember playing around with a 10 yard lead core shooting head off the bank at Farmoor many years ago using a Bob Church 10' reservoir stick. What a brute that was!

I had an interesting treble with that set-up from a boat on Queen Mother reservoir. A 5lb+ rainbow, a sock, and a yacht on consecutive casts.

The experiment came to an end at Walthamstow on a hot July day when I managed to stick a 3xl size 4 into my back just below the left shoulder blade. Hammered it home well and truly & had to drive home to Hemel to go to A & E where a very inexperienced doctor end up cutting the thing out, sans local. That hurt!

No more lead core lines for me after that.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2017 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The experiment came to an end at Walthamstow on a hot July day when I managed to stick a 3xl size 4 into my back just below the left shoulder blade. Hammered it home well and truly & had to drive home to Hemel to go to A & E where a very inexperienced doctor end up cutting the thing out, sans local. That hurt!



I had a very similar experience, not with a lead core but a very heavy shooting head, at Pitsford. A strong gust of wind caught the head mid-cast and drove a size 6 LS Jack Frost through my shirt and into my back. My boat partner, who revealed himself to be of a somewhat squeamish nature, refused to wrestle it out and instead insisted on driving me to A&E in Northampton. Once I'd explained what it was to a slightly bemused Asian doctor the point and shank were snipped off, courtesy of some pliers from maintenance and the bend pulled through. We were back fishing in short order!
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The best or worst for me was Farmoor, shooting head and a booby through the earlobe.
The warden on duty would not touch it so I fished on with it stuck in my ear and a friend pulled it out when I got home, it was starting to throb by then.
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Its like being on the boat in the original Jaws film lol
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You lot need to mind what you're doing....... Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Done it myself Rolling Eyes

10 weight Di7, dead budgie 6/0 fly - add a strong zephyr from an unexpected direction - and there's me with said 6/0 budgie buried in my skull - straight through my baseball style cap Rolling Eyes

Fortunately, the fly was, as all my Pike flies are, debarbed - but even the left behind bump was difficult to remove from around an inch deep - Blood everywhere Embarassed

Didn't stop me fishing though - must be made of sterner stuff Laughing ....... Tony Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 9:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe we should have a "the fly embedded in me" post.
Ouch Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fryfishing wrote:
The best or worst for me was Farmoor, shooting head and a booby through the earlobe.
The warden on duty would not touch it so I fished on with it stuck in my ear and a friend pulled it out when I got home, it was starting to throb by then.



Guilty as well.... Embarassed
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now you know how the fish feel lol
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guilty as well - fishing the North Tyne for salmon from the LH bank with a stiff downstream breeze and foolishly made a single spey cast (right hand up) hooking myself in the right ear lobe with a size8 double. Local doctors surgery used a scalpel to slit the ear lobe and I still have the scars to prove it. Sad
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