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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They look nice Dave, it will be interesting to see if your pike hook up rate increases.
I think it’s too much of a step for me right now, might have to tie some zonkers first!

Cheers mike


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Maybe I will keep them for Farmoor and the tanks in Autumn Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice ties! They'll do the business when they are on the fry, Dave. Cool

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I nearly forgot to mention this ...

I always snip the point off the top hook off my Snakes so I am effectively fishing one hook in an effort to minimise the chance of the fly tangling during the cast. Others like Peter (fryfishing) tie Snakes as a tandem lure which isn't a problem when back drifting as casting is not necessary and this presented us with an opportunity to compare and contrast results.

I always assumed that trout attack a Snake from behind but two of Peter's fish last Friday at Farmoor were hooked fair and square on the top hook next to the Booby eyes, leaving the rest of the fly and bottom hook dangling outside its mouth. The only conclusion we could reach was that those fish attacked the flies head and not its tail first and that the lack of a second hook could account for some of the tugs and rattles I got which didn't lock up. Confused

Had anyone got any thoughts on this? Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I clipped off the front hooks on my snakes as i was worried the long strands of flash would wrap around them. Now I'm regretting it! Very Happy

I always assumed that slow moving flies could be taken from any any angle but fast moving flies would be chased and engulfed from behind. That is probably completely wrong as there are lots of take videos online of fish hitting fast moving lures from the side.

I think i will be tying more snakes with two hooks Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple solution Al - emasculated flies for stripping, entire for back drifting. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great feedback as usual, guys! Cool

I was already thinking the same as Doug (tenet) and as a result I will be tying up a few bespoke 'Farmoor Specials' for back drifting, complete with two hooks in time for my next trip. Today would have been a good time to make a start as we have just had 9 inches of snow dumped on us, but I think it will be tomorrow now. Rolling Eyes Laughing

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Better make sure Farmoor allow tandem hook rigs before you tie many. It's a lot of work only to find you can't use them.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point and it never crossed my mind they might not allow tandems. Will have a look at the rules next time I am up. Smile

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I left the first hook bend on for back drifting (as Alan said) but if casting a snake fly would definitely snip of the first hook as it would no doubt save getting tangles.
I am not sure about the rules relating to tandems being used. Confused
Most of the time I am using single hook boobies and tend to resort to snakes when thing get slow or tough.

One thing that surprised me about the snakes I tied (using 80lb braid link) was how durable they have turned out to be, I have used the original Barbra Cartland on four sessions and it is still in good order and catching fish.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly smaller one but still a bit evil looking Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bootiful! 😜
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Came across this tip which would allow a "single" hook Snake Fly. Might give it a go. (did I really say that Smile )

https://www.demystifly.com/single-post/2017/02/26/Heres-a-Tip-for-Tying-Flies-with-Rabbit-Strip
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just tied a boobie version of this and it is very straight forward with the option to change the stinger hook with a bit of fiddling but probable not recommended with cold fingers.
Just need to check it will work.

I used a size 1/0 light wire Aberdeen hook as the main base, cut the bend off and fitted a B175 size 10.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good Peter but I wonder if the zonker will catch around the stinger - let us know how you get on.
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These get eaten at Farmoor 😇
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