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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:56 pm    Post subject: Ground bait of the past Reply with quote

Many moons ago gbait wasnt as complicated as today, knorr were hook baits for that matter Rolling Eyes my dad used to use a few stale old loaves of bloomers soaked in water for a few hours then squeezed out, to which he added various goodies ,like hemp ,tares, sweetcorn, barley, maggots and caster to name but afew and bowned together with bran Very Happy none of this high tech crap of today. Razz

Do you reckon it could stand up against more modern gbaits today. ive found it to work and have used his basic recipe very good in fast water at the royalty fishery on the avon, in fact its quite a puller of fish, ive seen barbel ,chub, carp, dace ect the works feeding over it, could it be time to go back to basics and forget modern mixes and baits Question
I used the same mix on a still water not a stones throw away from me, and had three carp out of it, the fish were clearly feeding over the gbait, no probs and going by the bubbles a few tench too . Is it luck ,or is it the gbait, have we gone to far with or baits/gbaits and forgottern the basics.
Or should i stop drinking , before posting Laughing Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are anglers who have no idea how or why to groundbait. I always start without it and only use it if the fish are not already there and feeding. Little and often is usually best and small morsels will have the fish hunting for the food rather than gorging themselves on it.

All you need is an attractor flavour or scent, a carrier to get it to the fish and some freebies to get them feeding.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i dont really go for the hi tech groundbaits,i just get 20 kilos of white crumb,costs £15 and 2 last the season.i add hemp and corn,and a squirt of attractant oil,works as well as the stuff that costs £3 for a 900g bag,and costs very little.its basically the same as your dad used,but with less prep.

just the way i like it!!! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny this...just writing a new chapter in my book on groundbaiting for big eels.

I used to mix up some really foul smelling stuff...3 or 4 tins of cat food, half a dozen mashed mackerel, two or three herrings, a packet of mince and a pint or two of fresh blood from the local abbatoir. Mixed up, mashed and placed in small plastic buckets and then dropped in the freezer. When I was ready to use it, I'd take one out and pierce a few holes in it...tie a length of thin string to the handle and just drop it in the centre of my chosen swim. As it thawed the juices and small pieces would drift out into the water...that stuff would draw eels in from miles around.

I'd also keep some mashed cat food handy...I'd throw it in the water so it formed the spokes in shape of a wheel..the theory being that the eels would follow the scent trails into my swim

The string? Secured around a spare rod rest so I can get the bucket back and reuse it.

That's what you call proper groundbait....
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweeper driver wrote:
Funny this...just writing a new chapter in my book on groundbaiting for big eels.

I used to mix up some really foul smelling stuff...3 or 4 tins of cat food, half a dozen mashed mackerel, two or three herrings, a packet of mince and a pint or two of fresh blood from the local abbatoir. Mixed up, mashed and placed in small plastic buckets and then dropped in the freezer. When I was ready to use it, I'd take one out and pierce a few holes in it...tie a length of thin string to the handle and just drop it in the centre of my chosen swim. As it thawed the juices and small pieces would drift out into the water...that stuff would draw eels in from miles around.

I'd also keep some mashed cat food handy...I'd throw it in the water so it formed the spokes in shape of a wheel..the theory being that the eels would follow the scent trails into my swim

The string? Secured around a spare rod rest so I can get the bucket back and reuse it.

That's what you call proper groundbait....


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea...you really didn't want to forget and leave any of the stuff in the car. But the eels seemed to love it...often used to drop a bucket in my designated swim on my way to work at about four in the morning and all would be ready for a short after work session.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do people still use this for groundbaiting? What's the effect on water quality? I know some carp waters ban groundbait due to water quality fears, is this the same?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't have thought so Chris...not these days. It wasn't really politically correct, it certainly wasn't green and what it did in the way of carbon emissions I dread to think. But remember...this was thirty five years or so back when I started this...cars were still being built with big engines, and everybody was still smoking in public places.

Most of the eel anglers I knew would stick to pre baiting with a tub of maggots or worms and fish with a lobworm or a dead roach as bait. Baiting up with dead frogs, mice or birds wasn't even known about, let alone done.

In fact, I don't think that there are that many big eel anglers still about nowadays....The NAC has a membership of approx 45-50 members in operation, the EEAA folded...probably lucky if there is any more than 100 big eel specialists fishing in the whole of the UK right now.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smelly or what, thats more like rubby dubby, mind you thats cheap coming from a guy who used his wifes p*** in his groundbait, mind you it did work Wink caught half a dozen male tench to 6lb Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sweeper driver wrote:
Funny this...just writing a new chapter in my book on groundbaiting for big eels..............


In fact, I don't think that there are that many big eel anglers still about nowadays....The NAC has a membership of approx 45-50 members in operation, the EEAA folded...probably lucky if there is any more than 100 big eel specialists fishing in the whole of the UK right now.


I'd keep that opinion from your publisher if I were you Rich.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'm my publisher Clive....write a book on pole fishing for bait sized carp and it would sell thousands. Write a book on big eels and people think you're bloody mad....
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